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Full Array of Choice is necessary

I believe employment choice is vital to serving our disabled citizens in this country. I having been working FOR people with disabilities my entire professional career. I would consider them my employer. I have been involved in service delivery at state, county and non profit levels. In my 30+ years, I have seen tremendous growth in both our service delivery models and also the opportunities provided to the individuals... more »

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14 (c) certificates are exploitation

My aunt who works in a workshop with a 14 (c) certificate feels that she is fortunate to be able to afford a can of coke and a few pieces of candy at the end of her week. She is tasked to do piecework and feels like it isn't fair that others get to have "real" jobs while she is left with pennies to the dollar. Section 14 (c) certificates segregate disabled people from the community and make the disabled person feel othered... more »

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Parent, Guardian, Advocate for severe intellectual disabilities

My son works in a vocational services company, formerly called "sheltered workshop". My son is not capable of competitive employment. He looks forward to going to work... He loves it. He does not know what a check is... except that it was something he earned. He may also associate it with going on an outing to the bank, McD's, etc. I have read many articles about people's position on 14c. Every time I discuss this... more »

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Equal regards

I was recently removed from 2 positions with the state, one right after the other. I have more education than my peers at the same status, but I requested ADA, and so I was assumed to be either a problem to handle, or unable to do the work. Neither are true.

One of my supervisors only gave me 3 of the 6 months of probabtion training, waited for the most opportune time to give me a 2 week notice, and exaggerated my inabilities.... more »

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Now People with Disabilities are working for no pay to avoid 14c

New requirements have been implemented with Section 511 of the Rehabilitation Act and Developmental Disabilities. There are now questionable situations surfacing where people with disabilities are not getting paid to avoid these requirements. If an employer including a sheltered workshop is selling the material or service where they are making a profit, then the person should be paid and be paid fairly.

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Options

There is no "one size fits all" solution. For that reason, the option of 14c work should be available for people who choose it. 14c wages have been characterized as the "most fair and accurate system of pay for work." This statement is correct if the organization is compliant with applicable DOL regulations. I know for a fact that if 14c is eliminated many people will experience less independence in their lives because... more »

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Mental Health Consumers Urgently Need Its Own Employment Agency

Mental health patients still facing the stigma and discrimination all over the workforce. What the mental health consumers need the most is a mental health employment agency that will send them to employers who belong to the mental health community and understand the issue. People outside the mental health community are too quick to deny the right to work to a mental health patient. I tried to explain my situation to... more »

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Do Not Eliminate Pride and Self-Worth

All three of the below statements have a direct relationship to the elimination of Sec. 14 (c) . With the elimination of Sec. 14 (c) many severely disabled individuals will lose their jobs. This means they will lose their pride, self-worth, social acceptance, and well-being. We know there are many out there wanting this to end, but for all the wrong reasons and for selfish reasons. Please do not put everyone in one... more »

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Positives of 14C

If a sheltered workshop follows the Dept of Labor rules and gets a prevailing wage every year and then bases their hourly rate on that prevailing wage, the 14c certificate is a valuable way for clients to be employed. This allows clients to work at their own pace and not be penalized for medical or behavioral issues. A certain number of product per hour is not required so all production can be celebrated without fear... more »

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My experience and lessons learned

I work for a nonprofit organization that was previously a "sheltered workshop." In January of this year, we transitioned away from using our 14(c) certificate and now pay minimum wage or more to all individuals we serve. We have been working towards this transition for at least 4 years. We started by developing a community based pre-vocational program as well as a community based day service program. We recognized... more »

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Prevailing Wage

Under Dept of Labor rules we are required to do a Prevailing Wage survey every year. This prevailing wage sets the hourly wage for all the jobs we do in the workshop. We do not set the hourly wage that our piece rate is based on. This is done by the prevailing wage process. Here is the process:
We contact 3 other businesses that do similar work as we do. We request the pay rate for an experienced worker. After receiving... more »

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structural changes are needed to phase out 14c

its time 14c rests. there were some good things, but the negative things outweighed the good.

In 2003, I went to work for a sheltered workshop in waupaca county. I was there for 8 years. During my time there, was often retaliated against by staff for speaking my mind.
To add insult to already difficult situation. I was told by the staff that I was unemployable. As another hard knock I was paid $4.28 an hour piece rate.... more »

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Why are we debating my child's civil rights?

As the parent of a disabled child, I cannot begin to imagine what circumstance would allow me to let him be exploited, dehumanized and devalued by being paid less than any person without a disability. The fact that he can legally be paid less than minimum wage is a horrifying violation of his rights and it needs to end now. Social opportunities and any need I have for "respite" should never come at the expense of his... more »

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Let adults with severe autism and I/DD have access to jobs

Specialized wage programs are immensely important for the burgeoning population of Americans disabled by severe forms of autism and I/DD. Based on data from California, this population is expected to *quintuple* over the next 20 years— and it's sheer fantasy to think this sizable group of vulnerable individuals with limited functional skills and often challenging behaviors could attain or retain competitive employment.... more »

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This is the way we have always done it- I say what's NEXT!!!

Sheltered workshops are they all the same?
Why do we focus on money if it doesn't matter? (Rep Payee)
So if it is true work why are they not treated like a real employee?
Mental, physical, & sexual abuse-the reality no one talks about?
Why can't we just do something different?
Dignity in risk- have we lost site of the possibilities!

Above are just some of my first thoughts when we consider should we or shouldn't we have... more »

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