Experiences transitioning from the use of Section 14(c) certificates

other alternatives for paid employment not always available

Some people do not want to work for sub-minimum wage, have an awareness that they could be earning more, and really would prefer to be competitively employed. those folks should be able to pursue their goals.There are also people who choose to do other kinds of activities during the day that are meaningful to them and don't include paid work. The fact that not everyone chooses doesn't mean that all 14C employment has... more »

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Concern about shutting down programs

When my son's employer transitioned to minimum wage pay, the program was required to shut down in a couple years due to lack of funds. Many people lost their jobs after working there for many years, even decades. It was very sad.
I understand about folks needing an income that helps out with their daily living expenses, therefore the need for minimum wage. There are people who are very capable of working at the productivity... more »

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What it felt like working for sub-minimum wage vs minimum wage

This is from a woman in Colorado who previously worked for subminimum wage and now works for minimum wage. She doesn't have access to email and thus I'm posting her comment for her:
"Working for sub-minimum wage - I could barely make due - with expenses like my apartment - because sub-minimum wages didn't even pay enough to buy a magazine or buy very much stuff. I didn't feel valued. Now that I make minimum wage,... more »

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Surely you don't mean...yes I do!

I have done Technical Assistance to help organizations transitioning from Sheltered Workshops to community supported employment. Working in one organization I was told, "You don't understand we support people with (more barriers to employment) who have 10-12% productivity. Surely you don't expect employers to pay minimum wage or higher someone like that." I inquired if they had ever supported anyone that had low productivity... more »

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14C sells us short; Money is better spent on our children

I am disheartened and appalled after having read the comments of similar parents with intellectually disabled adults. My 34-year-old daughter was in a 14C facility for 10 years. Her intellectual functioning is about 2d grade. I was told since she was born about all the things she could not do. I finally decided that I did not want her going to the same place, with the same people, doing the same thing for 40 years.... more »

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Success possible with staff training

In my work as an employment support professional supporting people with significant disabilities to find and maintain competitive, integrated employment, it was training that made the difference. The success of a transition away from 14C certificates toward community employment and employment first requires innovative and creative professionals supporting this transition.

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What if Businesses that do Integrated Employment be Recognized?

It seems to me that doing away with 14(c) certificates is not necessarily the answer. What needs to be done is to slowly eliminate the necessity for them. As a cog in a rather large business, I believe if the DOL certified integrated business like is done for women-owned, minority owned, or veteran owned that the system would migrate towards acceptance of bringing in adults with disabilities onto your staff. We should... more »

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The transition from 14(c) is a difficult one

When serving students with more significant needs, as my program does, it is a very difficult transition from the 14(c), if the goal is to continue providing paid work experience. This requires our business partners to agree to pay minimum wage for each student worker, regardless of performance. This is not in the best interest of the businesses. Businesses are in the business of turning a profit. To ask an employer to... more »

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Michiganders with Disabilities Demand Action

My local Goodwill in Muskegon, Michigan went through the provider transformation initiative and when they were finished, they decided to continue paying subminimum wage and have no plans to change. 14(c) is working for everyone except the people who remain in segregated environments at discriminatory wages. I have seen Michiganders with disabilities financially exploited for decades on end, and our sheltered workshop... more »

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TRANSITION TO WHAT?

We live in a rural area, as do millions of other people with disabled loved ones. Our autistic, visually disabled daughter will never be capable of driving. There is no public transportation. There are limited jobs that are suited for people without a college education. Of those jobs, the majority are cleaning or labor jobs. Not everyone can do those types of jobs, much less get to them. There is probably a 15-year-old... more »

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My son has down syndrome. He goes to work shop 5 days a week. He is very serious about his routine and responsibilities at work. He works 2 days a week and goes out in the community 3 days a week. He is diligent about what happens every day> He goes to workshop every day with a smile and comes home with a smile. He has great work ethics but most important he has self worth. I feel we need to keep workshops open.

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We transitioned from 14(c) Certificates around 30 years ago

Stride, Inc. was incorporated on November 1st, 1988. Originally started six years earlier as a "sheltered workshop," the goal of the business was to employ people with disabilities and eventually move people from a protected environment into the regular workforce. . She was the general manager of the operation and loved her work but conducting business was frustrating trying to compete in the corporate world as a not-for-profit.... more »

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Negatives of transitioning out of 14(c)

Let's talk transition! The place I work used to have a student to work transition where students from 18-22 could work in a 14(c), earn a wage, and have jigs built to assist with independence of completing a job task. Now, due to the law that option is no longer available to transition students in school. I interact with teachers daily who have concerns about students who cannot handle working more than 1-2 hours at a... more »

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14C is an Important Option

Eliminating 14C would be a terrible option. It allows employers to provide employment for those who will be stuck at home without this program. We have seen this occurring since the changes in WOIA. Employment is down for those who were in the Sheltered Workshop environment but it has not increased in the other areas. People are employed but at fewer hours and higher cost to tax payers.

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Fewer Jobs and Forgetting the Benefits of Socioeconomic Programs

I have had experience watching both the slow and quick elimination of 14(c) Certificate jobs throughout my experience as a provider of services to those with significant disabilities. As an employee of a Non-Profit Agency (NPA) in the AbilityOne network, I have seen the sorting lines dwindle away at once thriving paper shredding workshops. They have closed due to declining rates for sorted paper and mobile crews (rarely... more »

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